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02-07-2012, 11:27 AM
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Unhitching on a slope/slant
Hi,
I have a X23B hooked up to a Acura MDX with a heavy duty weight distribution system and sway bar. One trip last year the slope of the campsite resulted in the trailer being slightly tilted (lengthwise) relative to the Acura. It was almost impossible to get the the hitch ball out of the receiver on the trailer even after removing the pin and sliding up the locking mechanism. I had to resort to pulling the pin on the Acrua's trailer hitch and slowly moving forward to pull out the hitch from the car and then the ball on the hitch fell out of the trailer. It didn't feel right!. What should I have done? Is there a certain order that I must follow when detaching the trailer? Generally speaking I do the following: remove sway bar; back up and park; lower front jack on to a couple peices of wood; take some weight of hitch; remove weight dist. bars; take pin out of hitch and slide up the locking mechansim; raise trailer until the ball falls out; disconnect wires/brake safety; move car forward; pull pin from hitch and remove hitch (not necessary but I always hit it with my knees when unloading!); place chocks around tires; level trailer.
Thanks for any feedback
KillbearCamper
2010 X23B
Acrua MDX with heavy duty weight dist. trailer hitch
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02-07-2012, 11:57 AM
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After removing the weight dist. bars, I raise the front jack so that all the weight is back on the ball. As soon as the jack raises from the ground a hair, I release the lock on the ball and start lowering the jack again. When the trailer clears the height of the ball, I pull the TV forward and begin leveling. Maybe that will help.
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02-07-2012, 12:16 PM
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Go get some (2) 2 x 6's one 10ft the other 8 ft and cut them in half. You should be leveling your unit as close as posible to allow your WD hitch to engage and dis-engage. By having the boards you can place the longer one under the tires then the shorter one on top of that to allow you to gradually climb up as needed while setting up at your site.
If you cannot achieve level within these 2 boards you can dis-engage you WD bars on level ground, ideally only in front of the site on the access road then back into position.
The other option is to put some boards under your TV tires while engaged at the site.
You will need to repeat the process upon leaving.
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02-07-2012, 01:18 PM
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I've had this happen on a few occasions where the site is un-level (front to back). The problem is gravity...when on a slope the trailer will want to either push into or pull away from the hitch ball. This force makes hooking/unhooking more difficult. In the case of a downhill slope, I would first chock all trailer wheels firmly. Then try to "slightly" (less than 1") pull ahead. The idea is to get the trailer firmly locked on the chocks so that it cant roll forward. Then use the tongue jack to lift the front of the trailer and see if the flipper will pop up. If not, then "slightly" (less than 1/4") back up to relieve some force from the hitch ball and try the flipper again. Not sure if this is the right way to do it but it's worked for me.
Also...your sequence looks fine but I'd never unhook a trailer before chocking the wheels.
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02-07-2012, 02:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KillbearCamper
Hi,
I have a X23B hooked up to a Acura MDX with a heavy duty weight distribution system and sway bar. One trip last year the slope of the campsite resulted in the trailer being slightly tilted (lengthwise) relative to the Acura. It was almost impossible to get the the hitch ball out of the receiver on the trailer even after removing the pin and sliding up the locking mechanism. I had to resort to pulling the pin on the Acrua's trailer hitch and slowly moving forward to pull out the hitch from the car and then the ball on the hitch fell out of the trailer. It didn't feel right!. What should I have done? Is there a certain order that I must follow when detaching the trailer? Generally speaking I do the following: remove sway bar; back up and park; lower front jack on to a couple peices of wood; take some weight of hitch; remove weight dist. bars; take pin out of hitch and slide up the locking mechansim; raise trailer until the ball falls out; disconnect wires/brake safety; move car forward; pull pin from hitch and remove hitch (not necessary but I always hit it with my knees when unloading!); place chocks around tires; level trailer.
Thanks for any feedback
KillbearCamper
2010 X23B
Acrua MDX with heavy duty weight dist. trailer hitch
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WOW! You might be right at the weight limit with that MDX.
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02-07-2012, 04:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by go wild
I've had this happen on a few occasions where the site is un-level (front to back). The problem is gravity...when on a slope the trailer will want to either push into or pull away from the hitch ball. This force makes hooking/unhooking more difficult. In the case of a downhill slope, I would first chock all trailer wheels firmly. Then try to "slightly" (less than 1") pull ahead. The idea is to get the trailer firmly locked on the chocks so that it cant roll forward. Then use the tongue jack to lift the front of the trailer and see if the flipper will pop up. If not, then "slightly" (less than 1/4") back up to relieve some force from the hitch ball and try the flipper again. Not sure if this is the right way to do it but it's worked for me.
Also...your sequence looks fine but I'd never unhook a trailer before chocking the wheels.
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02-07-2012, 07:29 PM
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[SNIP= I'd never unhook a trailer before chocking the wheels.[/QUOTE]
X3 on chocking the wheels before unhooking. Hard to stop a runaway TT. Don't ask me how I know.
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02-07-2012, 08:52 PM
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ALWAYS chock, and do it first. I once took a ride in a TT lot at a local dealer because they neglected to chock a unit parked on a slope.
After chocking, you may have to nudge the TV down the slope an inch to relieve any pressure on the hitch. It's also a good way to make sure your chocks are set securely.
MDX? Wow. I'd never imagine hauling that close to the max. (X23B GVWR=4950, which may be your curb weight after loading). How does it handle for you?
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02-08-2012, 01:57 PM
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Thanks for the comments and insights. I definitely will move the chocking to the top of the list. My 2010 MDX has 300 hp and can tow 5000 lbs. Aside from a great layout, I liked the fact that the X23B was well under 5000 and had a gross weight under 5000. With the weight dist. bars it rides GREAT and is really smooth. I can easily cruise at 60 -70 mph, but the fuel consumption jumps considerably! I keep my trailer close to my favourite provincial park so I can drive unloaded for 90% of the trip, then I attach the trailer for the last 10%.
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02-08-2012, 02:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KillbearCamper
snip.... I keep my trailer close to my favourite provincial park so I can drive unloaded for 90% of the trip, then I attach the trailer for the last 10%.
KillbearCamper
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I would guess that would be Killbear Provincial Park. A very nice spot, right on Georgian Bay
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02-08-2012, 03:19 PM
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its awesome. Great beaches, shallow, clean water. The campsites are quite private and well treed. It actually feels like real camping - camp fires, racoons, watching the stars. But it is very tough to get a spot during July and August even though they have more than a thousand sites!
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02-10-2012, 08:52 AM
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Unhitching
Ok further to this, has anyone ever had a problem unhooking the WDH cause the site is not level and the round bar hits the ground, usually just on one side, so you can't get the chain off. I have started carrying a shorter bar as well but that's not exactly safe.
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02-10-2012, 10:41 AM
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Seems I mis-understood the original problem. You meant when your trailer is higher than you TV sloping up. I stayed in a few sites like that, where my trailer tires were 1-1.5 FT above my TV rear tire if you drew a straight level line. When I had a TT here is what I did.
Get into position for the site and lined up on level ground. Dis-engage the bars and sway control. Now the rear is sagging a bit but unhitching is easier since I don't have to crank up the TV and TT to ease the pressure off the bars. Now position the TT in the site and check for side to side level only.
Once I got it level chock the wheels, get back in the TV and while holding down the brake pedal shift to N then back to P. Now release the brake and the TV usually will move about 1-2" and set my TT in the chocks and eleviate the pressure on the ball. Now I position the blocks and raise the front of the TT. If the ball hangs up I repeat the process with the brake. I have found that if you release the brake while doing this the TV will move 3-4" and pull on the front of the hitch too much.
I used x-chocks after getting the unit level front to back as a double measure. You should not use them until the unit is completely level. It will damage your axels as you raise or lower the unit.
If your in the opposite situation where the TT is lower than the TV then the boards usually will get you close enough but check your tension on the bars on level ground again as the pressure will increase as the units level out.
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02-11-2012, 04:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jim44646
X3 on chocking the wheels before unhooking. Hard to stop a runaway TT. Don't ask me how I know.
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How do you know?
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02-11-2012, 04:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snake Plissken
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HA HA Got busy putting boards under low sid tires and forgot to chock. Chased a TT down hill a few feet. Lucky site had tire bumper or TT would have been in lake
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