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Old 04-17-2015, 06:16 AM   #1
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Class A License?!?

Here in Texas, I've learned that if you're towing a trailer that has a GVWR of greater than 10K lbs and your GCVWR is in excess of 26,001 lbs, you're supposed to have a Class A (non CDL) license. So far, this hasn't been a problem for me but we're upgrading to a larger trailer so it will put me over.

My TV is a 2015 Ford F350 DRW with a GVWR of 14000 lbs. Our new FW has a GVWR of 15,500.

So how many of you guys/gals have a Class A license? Can you tell me whether there's a driving test and what it consists of? Also, any other info you can share...

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In Illinois "recreational vehicle operators" are exempt from CDL requirements.

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Quahog - Looks like in Texas you are exempt also for recreational vehicles. So keep truckin and safe camping!

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I just went through all this checking and in doing so had 2 responses from the DMV. In NYS a class D license can have an endorsment of R which covers any RV 26,001 and over or 40ft in length. I have a B CDL and that as well as A superceeds the endorsement.

There are no Non CDL class licenses in NYS.

Offense: Driving out of class ticket, possible suit if you were to really do some damage.

You can take the test in your rig, but you need to have a legal driver take you there or it's probably an auto fail like here in NY. Hardest thing is the parallel parking and don't hit the curb also auto fail. Best thing to do is a pull up if you are going to hit the curb so it's only a minus and not an auto fail.

As these units get larger I am sure that stricter enforcement is only a few years away.

Other option is to move to another state not requiring it and your good.
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Old 04-17-2015, 07:09 AM   #5
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Quahog - Looks like in Texas you are exempt also for recreational vehicles. So keep truckin and safe camping!

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Found this though while looking at your link.

Recreational vehicles driven for personal use (although a CDL is not required, individuals may need to obtain a Class A driver license),

Authorizes an individual to drive a vehicle or combination of vehicles:

Not described under a Class B or Class C driver license
With a GVWR of 26,001 pounds or more provided the GVWR of the vehicle(s) towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds including vehicles in Class B or Class C

So he may still need to obtain his class A..
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Found this though while looking at your link.

Recreational vehicles driven for personal use (although a CDL is not required, individuals may need to obtain a Class A driver license),

Authorizes an individual to drive a vehicle or combination of vehicles:

Not described under a Class B or Class C driver license
With a GVWR of 26,001 pounds or more provided the GVWR of the vehicle(s) towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds including vehicles in Class B or Class C

So he may still need to obtain his class A..
I copied this from the Texas department of Public Safety webiste (TxDPS - Classes of Driver Licenses):


Individuals who are exempt from obtaining a CDL but may need a Class A or Class B driver license are:
  • Operators of recreational vehicles driven for personal use
  • Some farmers who meet certain criteria
  • Operators of cotton-seed modules or cotton burrs
  • A fire-fighting or emergency vehicle operator
  • Military vehicle operators
  • Vehicles owned, leased or controlled by an air carrier
So it doesn't look like a Class A is needed. Only if you operate one of the above and recreational vehicles is not listed. So you are good to go.
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Here in Texas, I've learned that if you're towing a trailer that has a GVWR of greater than 10K lbs and your GCVWR is in excess of 26,001 lbs, you're supposed to have a Class A (non CDL) license. So far, this hasn't been a problem for me but we're upgrading to a larger trailer so it will put me over.

My TV is a 2015 Ford F350 DRW with a GVWR of 14000 lbs. Our new FW has a GVWR of 15,500.

So how many of you guys/gals have a Class A license? Can you tell me whether there's a driving test and what it consists of? Also, any other info you can share...

Thanks!
Quah, you got me wondering so I read up on the link provided by Jay. The way I read it is you do not need a CDL or even a class A license.

"Not described under a Class B or Class C driver license
With a GVWR of 26,001 pounds or more provided the GVWR of the vehicle(s) towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds including vehicles in Class B or Class C"

Note it is GVWR not GCWR. My SRW GVWR is 11400 and I see yours is 14000.
I think we're both good.
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Found this though while looking at your link.

Recreational vehicles driven for personal use (although a CDL is not required, individuals may need to obtain a Class A driver license),

Authorizes an individual to drive a vehicle or combination of vehicles:

Not described under a Class B or Class C driver license
With a GVWR of 26,001 pounds or more provided the GVWR of the vehicle(s) towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds including vehicles in Class B or Class C

So he may still need to obtain his class A..
Guys, thanks for all the input but I am still not so sure. Tex1961 found the same stuff I was researching earlier. The way I read that, I will have to have a Class A but not a CDL. Recreational Vehicles are exempted from the CDL requirement.

Guess I'll call the DMV today and find out for sure.

p.s. I forgot to mention that what got me thinking about this was a comment Jayco made when I asked them how long it would take for my new rig to be delivered from the plant to the dealer. The lady told me that a trailer of this size required a CDL so that might take up to two weeks.
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Other option is to move to another state not requiring it and your good.
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The way I read it too is that you "may" require the NON CDL class A since your trailer is well above 10K GVWR. Again, like in NY the law is written very vague and not clear. In NYS it makes no mention of trailer or TV combinations, just the GCWR at 26,001 or over 40ft for recreational vehicles.

Best to call like your doing and ask based on your specifics. Then call again to confirm the answer.
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