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Old 09-18-2014, 09:33 PM   #11
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Hi Doc!

Where did you see this info?

I've got a 2006 RTL (they don't get any older ) and my manual says nothing about different weight limits.

I'm currently looking at getting a 23B, which when loaded will put me at the limits of the RL's towing/GCVWR...

But after talking to other RL owners on the RL forum, I'm confident I can do it safely...though gas mileage won't be pretty.

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Good point.

Also, keep in mind that depending on the year of the RL,the Ridgeline has a dual tow rating. The older ones have a 3500# for a travel trailer, 4500# for a boat. The X20E has a GVWR of 4570#. More than that its the frontal area of the trailer that will kill the Ridgeline. If the Ridgeline's manual says not to use a WDH, I don't think its a limitation of the vehicle, but rather the factory installed hitch. If you have one of the newer RLs with the 5000# capacity, you might be best swapping the factory hitch for a good quality after market one if you plan to tow your X20E with it.
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Old 09-19-2014, 03:33 PM   #12
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Hello cincy
I have read all the posts about different limits and no WDH, but there is nothing about these in my owners manual. Our Ridgeline does very well here in southeast MO. But, we're looking towards retirement and traveling out west and think we are going to need a little more TV to get over the mountains. Wish Honda made a larger truck and the Toyota Tundra is light on payload, so I guess we're going with the big three.
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Old 09-19-2014, 03:44 PM   #13
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So you're pulling a 23B with a ridgeline and without a WDH?

What about anti-sway? Or have you not had any need for that?

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I have read all the posts about different limits and no WDH, but there is nothing about these in my owners manual. Our Ridgeline does very well here in southeast MO. But, we're looking towards retirement and traveling out west and think we are going to need a little more TV to get over the mountains. Wish Honda made a larger truck and the Toyota Tundra is light on payload, so I guess we're going with the big three.
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Old 09-19-2014, 03:55 PM   #14
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Hi Doc!

Where did you see this info?

I've got a 2006 RTL (they don't get any older ) and my manual says nothing about different weight limits.

I'm currently looking at getting a 23B, which when loaded will put me at the limits of the RL's towing/GCVWR...

But after talking to other RL owners on the RL forum, I'm confident I can do it safely...though gas mileage won't be pretty.

Thanks!
I stand corrected. I just looked at the manual. The dual limit is for the Pilot. What is low is the tongue limit. 600#. You'll have to be conscious of what you load in the front of the trailer.

Mileage will be bad no matter what you tow with!

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I have read all the posts about different limits and no WDH, but there is nothing about these in my owners manual. Our Ridgeline does very well here in southeast MO. But, we're looking towards retirement and traveling out west and think we are going to need a little more TV to get over the mountains. Wish Honda made a larger truck and the Toyota Tundra is light on payload, so I guess we're going with the big three.
Officially the manual states that using a WD hitch is not recommended and then cites something about "improper use". I see no reason you can't use one, and when talking about the 23B and something like the Ridgeline I'd be afraid not to use one. Even empty with that soft suspension it'll take quite a bit of weight off the front wheels.
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Old 09-19-2014, 03:56 PM   #15
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So you're pulling a 23B with a ridgeline and without a WDH?

What about anti-sway? Or have you not had any need for that?

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no, I believe he has a WDH. I think he was saying that it didn't mention in his manual not to use one
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Old 09-19-2014, 04:56 PM   #16
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We tow with a 05 Pilot which is the red-haired step-child of the RL. I would look at air-bags to counter the sag in the rear. They have been a great upgrade for us. Also, I am unsure of the RL, but the MDX has an added rear suspension/frame braces that bolt right onto the Pilot. I added those as well. Check over at piloteers.org for more info. It can't hurt.

Honda is very conservative with their tow ratings. But, I do agree that the RL will run out of steam a bit in the mountains. However, what will not?

We just did a trip out west and I spend some time in the right lane. Never was passed by a semi, but it was working. I just can't say enough about how impressed I was with the Pilots performance over the 3000+ miles.

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Old 09-22-2014, 07:42 AM   #17
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Sorry about the confusion, we do have WDH with swaybar. The Ridgeline is not a long truck so I think a sway bar IS a needed.
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Old 09-22-2014, 09:59 AM   #18
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snip..... we do have WDH with swaybar. The Ridgeline is not a long truck so I think a sway bar IS a needed.
If you get a chance, take your TV/HTT combination under loaded conditions to a CAT scale for a weigh-in. The results will confirm if your WDH is properly rated and adjusted.

CAT scale how to: https://www.jaycoowners.com/forums/f37/how-to-weigh-your-tv-tt-3871.html

Apologize for drifting a little off topic.

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Old 09-22-2014, 10:15 AM   #19
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I intend too...

As it happens, I have a CAT scale 2min from my house.

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If you get a chance, take your TV/HTT combination under loaded conditions to a CAT scale for a weigh-in. The results will confirm if your WDH is properly rated and adjusted.

CAT scale how to: https://www.jaycoowners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3871

Apologize for drifting a little off topic.

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Old 09-22-2014, 10:35 AM   #20
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I used an 06 RTF to pull my 23B and it did do it but in my opinion it didn't do it well. My biggest concern was hills when i would lose 20-30 mph on an uphill in Illinois I didn't feel safe. But that is just me. I do miss driving it in the winter.
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