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Old 09-05-2014, 08:19 PM   #1
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Nissan Titan with Cummins Turbo Diesel

I've been reading today about the announcement that nissan is putting a 5.0 Cummins Turbo Diesel in the redesigned Titan coming out next year.

http://autoweek.com/article/car-news...diesel-v8-2015

I'm very excited about this, since I'm on a bit of a nissan kick (the last 4 vehicles I've purchased have been nissans). My armada tows good, but I got like 10-11 mpg on my last trip. I'll be keeping my eye on this one.
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Old 09-05-2014, 08:28 PM   #2
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I'd like to see that too, but especially if they'd give it some dang payload capacity! I was sorely disappointed to see that the new Ram diesels have less payload than my current truck, by a lot.
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Old 09-05-2014, 08:38 PM   #3
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they don't worry about the payload because the reason for building them is not to tow it is for fuel economy. They are all just preparing for the 54.5 MPG CAFE standard by 2025.
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Old 09-05-2014, 08:45 PM   #4
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they don't worry about the payload because the reason for building them is not to tow it is for fuel economy. They are all just preparing for the 54.5 MPG CAFE standard by 2025.

Yeah, I get that, but still... It would be nice.
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Old 09-05-2014, 09:01 PM   #5
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I think it could be a nice balance for people like myself. I don't really need a HD truck, most of my miles are unloaded anyways. I just want a truck for fun stuff like camping, tailgating, weekend projects etc. Bonus points for extra torque and fuel economy while towing. I was interested in the new ram ecodiesel, just not sure about investing in a fiat engine.

They had me at Cummins.
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Old 09-06-2014, 09:12 AM   #6
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supposedly dodge passed on that motor awhile ago, they were unsure of its reliability being a V motor and not a inline, thats what i hear anyways, not sure how true it is
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Old 09-06-2014, 01:14 PM   #7
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I've read it's got more to do with mpg and sourcing. Since Chrysler owns a large share in VM Motori they are getting the engine "in house" and keeping a larger share of the profits. I've read they are trying to buy out GM's share of the company as well. I've also read that the cummins only tested out at 24 mpg, and rams target was 26 mpg.

JMHO, I think it's more about money and less about the 2 mpg. It's not like cummins doesn't know how to make an engine. I'm sure if you asked American consumers if they'd rather have a Diesel engine from Cummins or VM Motori, it's Cummins in a landslide.
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Old 09-06-2014, 05:06 PM   #8
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they don't worry about the payload because the reason for building them is not to tow it is for fuel economy. They are all just preparing for the 54.5 MPG CAFE standard by 2025.
Seems to me that a much smaller diesel would provide adequate power and better fuel economy. I am hopeful that the introduction of the Cummins 5.0 in the Titan and Tundra coincide with a heavy half or legitimate 3/4 ton truck from them.
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I've read it's got more to do with mpg and sourcing. Since Chrysler owns a large share in VM Motori they are getting the engine "in house" and keeping a larger share of the profits. I've read they are trying to buy out GM's share of the company as well. I've also read that the cummins only tested out at 24 mpg, and rams target was 26 mpg.

JMHO, I think it's more about money and less about the 2 mpg. It's not like cummins doesn't know how to make an engine. I'm sure if you asked American consumers if they'd rather have a Diesel engine from Cummins or VM Motori, it's Cummins in a landslide.

They probably would choose the Cummins but it might not be the right choice. Diesels are everywhere in Europe and VM has a huge amount of experience in making light duty diesels. The 3.0 V6 is smaller, lighter and likely much quieter and more efficient in the real world.


I suspect the actual mpg difference will be more like 5 mpg then 2.

I agree Dodge needs to address the payload issue it has had since it switched to rear coils. Perhaps they could offer a 1500HD package to raise the GVWR by 600-800 lbs.
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I'd like to see that too, but especially if they'd give it some dang payload capacity! I was sorely disappointed to see that the new Ram diesels have less payload than my current truck, by a lot.
I thought that was all because of a change in the formula to make the calculations when in fact the suspension itself hasn't.
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