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Old 06-04-2018, 03:53 PM   #1
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Please Help! 16XRB or X17Z

Hello, I am new to the forum & looking for your thoughts & advice! I really want to purchase a hybrid and have narrowed it down to the Jay Feather 7 16XRB OR the X17Z. My tow vehicle is a 2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.6L V6 with factory tow pkg & rating of 5,000 lbs, payload 1,130 max. I live in Illinois, but do want to be able to tow safely in the mountains, already planning a trip to Colorado this fall. I will be getting a WDH & brake controller for safety. Am I ok for the 17Z or is the extra 300 lbs + 190lbs added hitch weight not worth the extra foot in width, nicer sofa & slightly bigger bunks? They seem to be so similar in almost every way. I am coming from a pop-up, so I will be thrilled with either. Sometimes the 2 of us camping, occasionally our 3 grown kids will join in. Do you have any recommendations or reasons why you like one or the other? Anything to be careful of? I am hoping to purchase this week & would truly appreciate some advice from everyone! Thank you!!
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Old 06-04-2018, 09:02 PM   #2
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I had a 2002 Jayco Qwest popup for 14 years and was perfectly happy with it. I used to tow it with a Nissan Pathfinder. I too have a Grand Cherokee (2013 V6) and found a used 2013 X17z for sale locally in 2016. I really love it. I usually travel from CT to VT, NH and ME. No problems at all in the mountains. I average about 20 mpg solo and 11-13 towing. Vehicle is very stable with sway control and WDH. Cargo capacity is not great. I never travel with water tanks full and usually it is 2 or 3 adults. My cargo capacity is 437 pounds, but I think we do a good job with restraint and do not over pack. (I believe they have upgraded the CCC on the 2018 x17z) I love my Jeep too. I would not hesitate to recommend that combo.
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Old 06-05-2018, 10:24 AM   #3
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We have an 2013 x17z and tow it with a 2015 Pathfinder that has a 5,000 lbs towing limit. We've been through the Virginia and (somewhat) into the West Virginia mountains. I haven't had an issue yet. I do think that if you plan to camp with your three grown children, you're going to have a hard time finding a place for all of them to sleep. The dinette is not that big and the couch is even worse. My experience with it is that if a person is more than 5'2'', they're going to be cramped on the dinette.

Also, you will want to seriously consider taking two vehicles if that many adults go along. You're not likely to have much leftover cargo capacity in the vehicle. We drove with three teenagers for one trip, and the extra person plus her gear was noticeable.
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Old 06-05-2018, 10:50 AM   #4
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Considering both units have the same maximum GVWR they are probably the same axle and frame underneath. So it becomes a question of size vs. carrying capacity.

At 6'3" I am barely comfortable on the bunk of the full size Jay Feather. I tried the bunk on the SLX Ultralight, and that foot of difference was huge for me. The SLX has a bit more cargo weight capacity because the unit itself is lighter, and if the bed length is not an issue to you, then the cargo capacity might be. The 760 lbs for the X17Z isn't much gear really.

I tow a larger X19H with a similar class Traverse (same towing capacity, about 500 lbs more payload capacity) and it tows fine with WDH and Sway, and I am within all limits at the CAT scale. We regularly tow in the Andirondacks, not nearly as tall as CO, but still some good grades on back country blacktops. No problem maintaining 55. I think either combo will do you fine for towing.

I agree with Steve though, if the teens are joining you they should bring their own car, your Jeep will take the trailer or the kids, but probably not both. And stick then in a tent outside to save everyone's sanity (that's what I do with my kids) .
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Old 06-05-2018, 11:46 AM   #5
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I would say if you vehicle can tow it get the nicer (larger) one - you will be much happier.
I thought our 19H would be perfect. After a couple of trips I with I had a slide out on it just for a little extra space.

My next will be something with no hybrid beds but with bunks and a bedroom plus a slide out. It's just hard finding that in a hort enough trailer to get up into the hunting camp we go to.
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Old 06-06-2018, 08:38 AM   #6
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Thank you all for your comments! My inclination is to go with the X17Z and I feel reassured now that I could tow it. With either unit, we will take 2 vehicles if the 3 kids join us, so as to not weigh down the Jeep. Mostly it will just be the 2 of us. Iím still weighing the pros & cons of each. The X17Z is 3 hours away and priced $2k more plus cost of WDH & brake controller. The 16XRB is 30 minutes and they are coming down lower in price & offering a good deal on the WDH & BC. They will also install a fan in the bathroom, which I was wanting instead of just a vent. Driving only 30 minutes for any needed service instead of 3 hours would be nice. Any other opinions appreciated! This forum is such a wonderful resource and you all are very helpful. 😊
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Old 06-06-2018, 11:59 AM   #7
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You can always take your Jayco elsewhere for service - you can't always add a foot of length to a trailer.
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Old 06-06-2018, 12:31 PM   #8
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You can always take your Jayco elsewhere for service - you can't always add a foot of length to a trailer.
Very true, good point.
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Old 06-06-2018, 12:39 PM   #9
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I was in the same situation as you. For me the deal breaker was the bunks. When I laid down in the 16RB my head and feet were that the canvas and i'm not a tall person, only 5'9. The x17z with the extra foot gave me plenty of room. The only downside to the x17z that i've found is it only comes with the 10ft awning while the 16RB gives you the 12ft. Not sure why Jayco did that but its kind of annoying. Everything else is bigger with the x17z, why not the awning. Good luck!
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Iím still weighing the pros & cons of each. The X17Z is 3 hours away and priced $2k more plus cost of WDH & brake controller. The 16XRB is 30 minutes and they are coming down lower in price & offering a good deal on the WDH & BC. They will also install a fan in the bathroom, which I was wanting instead of just a vent.
Offer make the offer of the X17Z lower then. When I bought ours in April, I offered $14,9 (which was the price of the 16RB) they countered we settled on $15,9. The extra foot you'll appreciate on rainy days, plus it comes with 2 propane tanks, ours came with a power jack, nicer rims over the 16RB. Not sure what your deal but good luck!
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