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Old 11-15-2013, 05:44 PM   #11
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We looked at both and liked the open feel of the Z more. The A has some nice features, but I personally felt more like I was in a cave in it. We consider our Z a two person trailer, and it has worked out top be the perfect little trailer for us!
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Old 11-17-2013, 07:09 PM   #12
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We were ready to make a purchase of a leftover 2013 17A. However once we got the the dealership to check them out something funny happened. My boys tried to gather around the dinette like we do for breakfast and their legs were hitting the table legs and we found the table to be rather small. Plus one of the cushions was defective, they would not fit into place correctly. I was about to go back to the 17Z. We just happened to walk through the X18D on the way back over and my boys saw that they could have their own beds and made it clear to me that they would rather each have a bed. The dinette in the X18D is a little awkward on the front bench and the counter space is limited. However most of our time spent in the camper is sleeping. We put a cover on the stove and the whole thing works out very nice. It's about 400 lbs more, $2000 more, but has more open space, had room for the dogs bed and the double axle pulls nicely. We are very happy with our decision! I put this in here just for some insight between the two campers if someone is choosing between the A and the Z. Go D!
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Old 11-17-2013, 09:33 PM   #13
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... I was about to go back to the 17Z. We just happened to walk through the X18D on the way back over and my boys saw that they could have their own beds and made it clear to me that they would rather each have a bed.
We would have purchased the 19H if we felt comfortable towing more with our TV. The 17Z is great for 2 people plus all our mountain bike stuff. Anymore than that, it would be a tight squeeze -- especially on a rainy day!!!
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Old 12-08-2013, 09:39 PM   #14
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We bought the 17A unseen, and love it, thought the dinette and bench would meet our needs, a little dark after the popup, but we don't want to be inside a lot anyway, used it thanksgiving week, and seemed really happy since the kitchen met our needs, cooked the turkey with an electric roaster since the oven is small. We are very happy with it
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Old 12-09-2013, 05:12 AM   #15
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We bought the 17A unseen, and love it, thought the dinette and bench would meet our needs, a little dark after the popup, but we don't want to be inside a lot anyway, used it thanksgiving week, and seemed really happy since the kitchen met our needs, cooked the turkey with an electric roaster since the oven is small. We are very happy with it
... sounds like you are off to a great start. The best is yet to come.
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Old 12-09-2013, 02:40 PM   #16
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The X17s just have awful cargo capacity. If you can go up a level, I would do so in a heartbeat just for the piece of mind of loading the camper reasonably w/o worrying about being overweight. I would not buy the X17z or recommend it to anybody based on this.

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Old 12-09-2013, 03:24 PM   #17
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The X17s just have awful cargo capacity. If you can go up a level, I would do so in a heartbeat just for the piece of mind of loading the camper reasonably w/o worrying about being overweight. I would not buy the X17z or recommend it to anybody based on this.

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I agree 100% with s1njin. The other area Jayco falls short on, is tank capacities. With only 20 gallons of fresh water plus the hot water heater, you are not using the shower on a weekend trip unless you have full hook ups. Most other manufacturers are putting at least 30 gallon fresh water tanks. Jayco uses the 20 gallon in ALL of their hybrids. The Coleman hybrid (made by Dutchman, I believe) gives you 60 gallons of fresh water in their 17 foot hybrid, plus the option of power jack and awning.

After less than a year of owning a X17Z and fighting with the factory I was able to trade it in and take the financial hit. I wasn't crazy about losing money, but I am glad I not longer have the headache sitting in my driveway. Oh and the 2 year warranty, don't even get me started on that. When Jayco says their is a problem with the trailer but they are not going to spend anymore time or money on it, then the 2 year warranty doesn't do you much good.

Rant over. Sorry if I offended anybody, but those are the facts.
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I agree 100% with s1njin. The other area Jayco falls short on, is tank capacities. With only 20 gallons of fresh water plus the hot water heater, you are not using the shower on a weekend trip unless you have full hook ups. Most other manufacturers are putting at least 30 gallon fresh water tanks. Jayco uses the 20 gallon in ALL of their hybrids. The Coleman hybrid (made by Dutchman, I believe) gives you 60 gallons of fresh water in their 17 foot hybrid, plus the option of power jack and awning.

After less than a year of owning a X17Z and fighting with the factory I was able to trade it in and take the financial hit. I wasn't crazy about losing money, but I am glad I not longer have the headache sitting in my driveway. Oh and the 2 year warranty, don't even get me started on that. When Jayco says their is a problem with the trailer but they are not going to spend anymore time or money on it, then the 2 year warranty doesn't do you much good.

Rant over. Sorry if I offended anybody, but those are the facts.
So what did you end up buying on the trade in?
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snip...... Jayco uses the 20 gallon in ALL of their hybrids.....snip
Not true, the X18D, X19H, and X20E all have 40 gallon fresh water tanks..., "plus" the HW tank capacity.

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snip...... The other area Jayco falls short on, is tank capacities. With only 20 gallons of fresh water plus the hot water heater, you are not using the shower on a weekend trip unless you have full hook ups. Most other manufacturers are putting at least 30 gallon fresh water tanks. Jayco uses the 20 gallon in ALL of their hybrids. The Coleman hybrid (made by Dutchman, I believe) gives you 60 gallons of fresh water in their 17 foot hybrid,.......snip
Your correct that the Coleman CTE171 has a 60 gallon fresh water tank capacity, but with further review you would also find that the Coleman CTE171 has 67 lbs less published CCC then the Jayco X17Z. IMO the 60 gallon tank capacity comparison is moot.

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We have a 2009 17c and for the most part really like it. This was our first season with it. We are a family of 4. My oldest son (15) and I use it mostly with our prospecting trips. We were in it for a week together last summer and it worked well.

I would agree that storage could be better but there is just no where to put anymore cabinets on a camper that size.. This camper is what it is.

My biggest complaint with the camper is where to put cloths and stuff. We have plenty of space for food. We packed enough clothes for about 3 days and made one trip into town and did laundry at a laundry mat. Worked out OK for us.

The water situation is not a problem for us. I believe our camper has a 28.5 gallon fresh water tank not a 20. We get to the camper that is in a remote location and use our 40 gallon water bladder to fill it. When we need more water we head out to a town and get more. On our week trip last summer we had to just re-fill the bladder once and we wound up dumping about 15 gallons out of the camper and about 10 gallons out of the bladder when we left. Two of us took showers each evening, washed our hands, used it for washing dishes etc. We don't drink water from a tank. I never would...so we just bring in our own bottled water to drink and cook with.
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