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Old 02-13-2016, 06:56 AM   #1
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5er GVWR on 1/2Ton

Looking at moving from a 24FBS (7500lb. GVWR) to an Eagle HT 26.5RLS fifth wheel (9950lb GVWR). I'm concerned about the weight. My 1/2 ton is rated at 11,300 or so and 80% of that is 9040lbs, 90% is 10,170lbs. Will my 1/2 pull that okay or am I maxing out the truck capacity? Have the 5.4L V-8 with tow package and long bed.

Of course the dealer said no problem...the HT model is designed for a 1/2 ton but I want to know from you experts, not the yahoo trying to sell me the 5er.

Whaddya think? The truck pulls the TT with ease but I'm not sure about the 5er weight, Dealer said in a 5er the GVWR really means nothing because of the bed hitch and I should look at the unloaded weight (7310lb) as a guideline to compare to truck capacity. Is he full of s*** or should I believe him? I hesitate to believe most of what those guys tell me.

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Do you know what the pin weight is? I would be concerned with the pin weight coming close or exceeding your payload.
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Not sure of pin weight but brochure states dry hitch weight of 1430 lbs. Is that the same? I'll look on Jayco site to see if I can find the pin weight.
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Havnfun,

What is the yellow payload sticker in the drivers door jamb of your 150? Will state, "All passengers and cargo not to exceed XXXXlbs".... All passengers, cargo, any accessories added to the truck, the hitch, AND the pin weight should not exceed this amount.

Jayco's site list the pin at 1340lbs ("Brochure" dry weight). Plus the 5ver hitch, which a lighter model is what, maybe 250lbs? Plus all the passengers and all cargo.

Don't see how you will be able to stay under the gvwr of the truck, and will probably be knocking on the door of the rar.

I chalk the salesman up as trying to make a sale!!!! It's a good thing to be hesitant!!!

Now maybe if he will put it in writing that you will be under all the trucks specs,... but I doubt he will.

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Old 02-13-2016, 07:49 AM   #5
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You need to look at the truck payload capacity. Usually found on a label on the driver side door or pillar. My guess is it is in the neighborhood of 1800lbs.? That would only leave you 370 lbs for passengers and other stuff in your truck less weight added to pin due to cargo added to the camper. Rule of thumb is usually 25% of 5th wheel weight goes to the pin.
If you're not dead set on a 5er check out the 27DSRL. Same floor plan but in a TT version. Looks like there would be more TT storage and the bed of your truck would be available for "stuff" also. Hitch weight might be in the neighborhood of 600lbs.
In fact I might be inclined to make you a deal on a 2015 DSRL as we are looking to upgrade to the Pinnacle 36FBTS.
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Okay...payload capacity shows 2405 lbs. Taking off 1430 for pin wt. and 250 for hitch, that leaves me with 725 lbs for passengers and cargo in truck.

Is that correct and will that suffice? It's usually just the wife and I (350 lbs.) plus about another 50 lbs. in cargo. What about the 36 gals. of gas?

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Wow! 2400 is a lot of payload for a half ton!

I would suggest going with the aluminum Andersen Ultimate hitch. Since you have a long bed, you will be able to do full 90 degree turns. The hitch weighs less than 40 pounds, so it will save precious payload capacity.

Also, it would be good to get actual loaded pin weights from others that tow the same trailer. I would think it would be more like 2000 pounds. Hopefully, someone can chime in with real numbers.
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The payload number is for the whole truck. a 5th puts its weight mostly on the rear axle which has its weight rating (Rear GAWR). A visit to the scale will get your current axle weights. The 1430# will certainly go up as you add your "stuff".
I would expect a loaded weight around 8000# and a pin wt about 2000# (25%).
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Okay...payload capacity shows 2405 lbs. Taking off 1430 for pin wt. and 250 for hitch, that leaves me with 725 lbs for passengers and cargo in truck.

Is that correct and will that suffice? It's usually just the wife and I (350 lbs.) plus about another 50 lbs. in cargo. What about the 36 gals. of gas?

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The yellow sticker shows 2405lbs for your truck??? Well, that will help!!! You must have the HD Payload package as well, or it was part of the HD Tow package in '09 maybe.... What is your trucks GVWR? And what is the rear axle rating?

I was just guesstimating at the 5ver hitch weight. Hopefully those more familiar with 5vers can chime in...

Have you ever weighed your current trailer? How much weight have you added to your with all the dishes, bedding, etc?
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2405 is really good for a half ton! My F150 is only 1650. As others have said, you must have the HD Payload option. That helps a lot!
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