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05-19-2018, 06:23 AM
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Ground Control 3.0
I have just a quick question about the LCI/Lippert Ground Control 3.0 on my 2018 Pinnacle 36KPTS. The 4 rear stabilizing are mounted so high that on even/level ground and the pads extended as far down as possible they will sometimes give me an "Out of Stroke" Error. My question is: Can I lower them a bit to give more stroke/travel without messing up or having to re-calibrate the system? (When fully retracted there is more than enough ground clearance)
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05-19-2018, 06:26 AM
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I would think lowering them would be no problem. It’s not any difference than adding blocks underneath...
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05-19-2018, 06:38 AM
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I would contact Lippert directly and ask. They may have some control mechanism that requires the jacks at a certain level from to rear.
Just my 1/2 cent of opinion
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05-19-2018, 06:46 AM
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Use blocks to prevent out of stroke. Don't move the jacks, you will loose ground clearance. I use lego type blocks under all my jacks. Never had an over stroke.
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05-19-2018, 07:22 PM
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I agree with Earl. Use blocks. I have the same situation with my pinnacle and just load up the blocks under the rear jacks. Works great.
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05-19-2018, 08:02 PM
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After making these out of 2x10's I've had no out of stroke errors
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05-19-2018, 08:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannon
After making these out of 2x10's I've had no out of stroke errors
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How did you fasten them together. Also anyway to stack without them sliding around?
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05-19-2018, 09:11 PM
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How did you fasten them together. Also anyway to stack without them sliding around?
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I screwed two together with deck screws. I use a double (2-2/10's screwed together) under the rear and middle jacks and a single under front jacks. So far they have work every time since I started using the blocks with no errors.
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05-19-2018, 09:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rdlouks
I have just a quick question about the LCI/Lippert Ground Control 3.0 on my 2018 Pinnacle 36KPTS. The 4 rear stabilizing are mounted so high that on even/level ground and the pads extended as far down as possible they will sometimes give me an "Out of Stroke" Error. My question is: Can I lower them a bit to give more stroke/travel without messing up or having to re-calibrate the system? (When fully retracted there is more than enough ground clearance)
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This does not sound correct. I would start with the dealer and Jayco and let them know how many inches of travel you need after full deployment. You should not have to supply extra pads just to get the system to work.
Ask them how many inches off the ground they should be set at.
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05-19-2018, 09:30 PM
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One thing I have to do is leave 6" travel on front jacks.Sometimes mine will lower down about 4" or 5" and then raise back up to level. If I leave less than 6" of travel it bottoms out and gives error code. after that the rear jacks raise till they go out of stroke and pick tire off the ground. It did this twice when I first got it. I started leaving the 6" on front jacks and have not had that problem anymore.
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05-20-2018, 03:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John7349
This does not sound correct. I would start with the dealer and Jayco and let them know how many inches of travel you need after full deployment. You should not have to supply extra pads just to get the system to work.
Ask them how many inches off the ground they should be set at.
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It is correct. You need ground clearance for the jacks. Electric or hydraulic, they need clearance. Hydraulic have a much longer stroke. Unless you're on flat level ground, you will blocks under them. Also the blocks reduce the stroke which reduces the wiggle.
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05-20-2018, 07:16 AM
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I'm one of those that do more than I should, go further than I should and usually say more than I should .
I have always blocked under mine to have as little stroke as possible.
I block under the landing gear to have limited stroke (if something go's wrong not as far to fall). I unhook level up and down and put blocks under levelers.
It is more work but so far I have had no problem with it.
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05-20-2018, 07:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rdlouks
I have just a quick question about the LCI/Lippert Ground Control 3.0 on my 2018 Pinnacle 36KPTS. The 4 rear stabilizing are mounted so high that on even/level ground and the pads extended as far down as possible they will sometimes give me an "Out of Stroke" Error. My question is: Can I lower them a bit to give more stroke/travel without messing up or having to re-calibrate the system? (When fully retracted there is more than enough ground clearance)
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You should really use blocks under each of them and you won't get 'out of stroke anymore
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05-20-2018, 07:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rdlouks
I have just a quick question about the LCI/Lippert Ground Control 3.0 on my 2018 Pinnacle 36KPTS. The 4 rear stabilizing are mounted so high that on even/level ground and the pads extended as far down as possible they will sometimes give me an "Out of Stroke" Error. My question is: Can I lower them a bit to give more stroke/travel without messing up or having to re-calibrate the system? (When fully retracted there is more than enough ground clearance)
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I have a North Point 377 and sometimes on a slight uneven ground mine would run out of stroke. You can bock it as others suggested with wood blocks. I use these and am very pleased. The only issue is the early ones didn't have the magnets to hold them on the pads as the new ones do. You had to hold them by hand. But problem solved with magnets.
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05-20-2018, 10:21 AM
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We stuff as many blocks as we can under rear jacks once we unhook.Levels almost any where!Thanks
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05-20-2018, 01:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John7349
This does not sound correct. I would start with the dealer and Jayco and let them know how many inches of travel you need after full deployment. You should not have to supply extra pads just to get the system to work.
Ask them how many inches off the ground they should be set at.
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My bad on my original post!
I should have said:
With the jacks in the upright traveling position, "how many inches are there to the ground?". It sounds like the OP thinks his Jacks are mounted to high, causing early "Out of Stroke" issues, even on level ground.
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05-21-2018, 06:55 AM
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I cut 6 pieces of 6" x 6" added some rope to carry and pull them out from under the landing gear and never had any issues since. Without them there was never any "Successful Leveling".
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06-04-2018, 12:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rdlouks
I have just a quick question about the LCI/Lippert Ground Control 3.0 on my 2018 Pinnacle 36KPTS. The 4 rear stabilizing are mounted so high that on even/level ground and the pads extended as far down as possible they will sometimes give me an "Out of Stroke" Error. My question is: Can I lower them a bit to give more stroke/travel without messing up or having to re-calibrate the system? (When fully retracted there is more than enough ground clearance)
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When i got an "out of stroke" error I found that it was in need a zero reset. Just follow the directions in the manual for resetting Zero.
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06-05-2018, 07:52 AM
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Same here, I cut eight 6x6’s and place two side by side under back and center jacks. Also have some 10x10’s for landing gear. If needed I can double up backs. More blocking more stable.
I have still on occasion received errors on jacks. After doing the extend retract procedure to clear error and than rezero all will be good. Gotta love electrical gremlins.
Rock
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06-05-2018, 08:56 AM
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We add 1x8 pieces in a stack under each pad until you can't fit another one. We started doing this 2 years ago and have 100% success with this method.
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