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Old 05-09-2015, 09:09 AM   #11
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I am an avid EcoBoost enthusiast and very knowledgeable on the F150. I would strongly advise against pulling the 28BHBE with your truck. My personal opinion is that the 28BHBE belongs behind a 3/4 ton or better and not a half ton. The fact that your truck is not a Max Tow or Heavy Duty Payload package guarantees you are outside of at least one of several limits, and the 3.31 gears will not do you any favours either. Consider some of the slightly smaller trailers that weigh in at under 6,000lb empty and you should be fine.
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Old 05-10-2015, 08:51 PM   #12
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Summit if you are looking to help out your rear suspension you should check out stable loads by torklift. I added them last week and took my trailer out for the weekend and they made one heck of a difference! The part I like most about them is that when you are not under load you can go back to factory and not comprimise your ride.
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Old 07-03-2015, 12:04 AM   #13
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I tow a 2015 28BHBE with a 2015 Sierra 5.3 CC (base) with the 3.42 rear end. Once I got my weight distribution hitch setup properly I do not have any issues towing it. My payload is about 1850lb which gets knocked down at least 500lb with driver and passenger.

I definitely think a 2500 would be a better fit for the trailer if you want to drive regular highway speeds, I keep it at 60mph max to avoid trailer sway and ride comfort.
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Old 07-03-2015, 09:00 AM   #14
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What are your scaled weights for your TV/TT combination, Motorbreath? I am just curious as I tow our 2015 28BHBE with a Silverado 3500HD. Tongue weight is usually around 1200lbs when headed out for a week to 10 days.
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Old 07-03-2015, 09:36 AM   #15
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I have not checked yet, but my understanding is that 1200lb is the max for my truck with weight distribution. I did switch to LT tires which made a big difference in handling, but I have been assuming my tongue weight is about 1000lb since my WD hitch levels the trailer (1000lb bars).

I was planning on getting it weighed while hitched to my truck, but I cannot seem to find private scales in my area (Waterloo, Ontario). From what you say, I will do this ASAP, and post what I find.

EDIT: I just noticed from your previous post that your tongue weight was with fresh water tanks full; since you have the Elite package (jealous) you have 80gal capacity versus 40gal in the standard model (mine), so add about 700lb of water slightly in front of the axles. This could easily add 100-200lb of tongue weight, but I am still going to weight my configuration to verify I am within capacity. On another note, I suggest you look under your trailer to see how secure your fresh water tanks are, my single tank does move from side to side quite a bit when I tow with ~10gal in the tank (toilet breaks while on the road!).

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What are your scaled weights for your TV/TT combination, Motorbreath? I am just curious as I tow our 2015 28BHBE with a Silverado 3500HD. Tongue weight is usually around 1200lbs when headed out for a week to 10 days.
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Old 07-04-2015, 03:00 PM   #16
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We just looked at this setup and decided it was more trailer than we were willing to deal with on a trip to Yellowstone from mn. The payload numbers are the ones that had me nervous using our 2011 Silverado 1500 with tow package. We wouldn't have been over but it was close enough to make me think twice about throwing the bikes in the truck with empty water in the camper

So we purchased a 2500hd (2015 Silverado) and borrowed a friends Salem 26tbud which comes in at a similar weight to the 28 foot Jayco's. We are on the way home as I type and have averaged about 6.3 mpg dealing with a headwind. Truck isn't having trouble just dealing with resistance. Over the mountains heading west the truck ran at 5k rpms at places to maintain 55-60 mph speed. But We were never in danger of losing speed...it did work hard to get over but well within what this truck could do. I have no clue how the 1500 could have done it without some serious stress.

It's a judgement call but that one trip over the bighorns has me convinced the bigger truck is probably necessary for longer trips with the higher payload/bigger trailer.
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Old 07-04-2015, 03:23 PM   #17
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I did indeed check the fresh water tanks while I had the underbelly down. (I had opened the front to run some wires and did not like what I saw)
The straps for the tanks are quite sturdy I am happy to say, and I did noticed that the tanks move around a bit. (Stuffed hi density foam insulation along sides of tanks to stabilize them)

The 2 "overflow lines" come from the front tank on my unit. There are 2 (two) 1/2" balance lines between the tanks at the top and 1 (one) 1 1/4" equalizing line at the bottom. The vent line at the gravity fill is the rear tank overflow/vent.

While I was in the underbelly I did secure all the wiring and fixed the slide motor connections as they were not making proper contact. (The slide travels much easier now)

All in all I was under the trailer for a full day, but it is good to know what things look like down there. It is now all sealed up and ready for our 10 days at Shuswap Lake Provincial Park. Soon ready to camp...
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Old 07-04-2015, 10:40 PM   #18
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Hmm, I need to spend some time under my trailer, I am interested in adding a second fresh water tank like the Elite package has. We like provincial parks but need more fresh water capacity to really enjoy the stay without full hook-ups. If you ever get a chance, could you take pictures of the two tank setup your have? I would like to use that as a basis for adding the second tank.
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We just looked at this setup and decided it was more trailer than we were willing to deal with on a trip to Yellowstone from mn. The payload numbers are the ones that had me nervous using our 2011 Silverado 1500 with tow package. We wouldn't have been over but it was close enough to make me think twice about throwing the bikes in the truck with empty water in the camper

So we purchased a 2500hd (2015 Silverado) and borrowed a friends Salem 26tbud which comes in at a similar weight to the 28 foot Jayco's. We are on the way home as I type and have averaged about 6.3 mpg dealing with a headwind. Truck isn't having trouble just dealing with resistance. Over the mountains heading west the truck ran at 5k rpms at places to maintain 55-60 mph speed. But We were never in danger of losing speed...it did work hard to get over but well within what this truck could do. I have no clue how the 1500 could have done it without some serious stress.

It's a judgement call but that one trip over the bighorns has me convinced the bigger truck is probably necessary for longer trips with the higher payload/bigger trailer.
I looked at the 2500s before I bought my 1500, I was very impressed with performance of the new Ram 2500 with the new 6.4L hemi but the interior was very cramped. The GMC/Chevy 2500 was much more comfortable and the 6.0L engine is known to be bulletproof (although not as peppy as the 6.4L hemi!). The thing is, unless I shelled out $$$ for a diesel engine, the 2500 with the 6.0 actually has a lower power-to-weight ratio compared to the 1500 (5.3 or 6.2). The big benefit with the 2500 is frame, suspension, and payload.

With the WD hitch setup properly my 1500 *feels* like it can handle the trailer fine. Braking is great since the 28BHBE has drum brakes on both axles and I have had no problem maintaining speed on moderate grades (3-5%). I would not regularly tow a trailer of this size and weight since my 5.3 is not built as well as the 6.0, but for a trip 1-2x a month during the Spring and Summer, I am happy
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Old 07-16-2015, 08:27 PM   #20
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I got around to check my weights on a scale, I am well within all of the limits for the 1500:

2015 Sierra 1500 5.3 3.42 with trailering package (1/2 tank of gas)
Payload is 1900lb (865kg)
Max axle weights are both 3950lb (1792kg)
Max tongue weight is 1200lb (544kg)
Max towing weight is 9200lb (4173kg)
GCWR is 15000lb (6804kg)

2015 Jayco 28BHBE (with 40 gal freshwater tank full, full propane, ~200lb in cargo)
Blue Ox WDH adjusted "properly" (had to re-adjust after dealer)

Scale trailer weight 7297lb (3310kg)
Scale truck weight 5578lb (2530kg), includes my daughter (10kg) and I (120kg)
Scale front axle weight 3020lb (1370kg)
Scale rear axle weight 2557lb (1160kg)
Scale tongue weight 771lb (350kg)
Payload estimate 1080lb (490kg)
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