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Old 11-25-2018, 10:23 PM   #1
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Is less shake possible?

So we have a 2018, 267bhsw that we have taken out 6 times since we bought it in April. We absolutely love this trailer but I would like it to be a little stiffer. Yes I understand that is sitting on four wheels and that having it 100% solid isn’t going to be realistic but I know there is something more than can be done. I’ve seen the jt strong arms and the BAL lock arms but do they take the bounce out? I use x chocks and they take out all of the front to back roll of the trailer but when the fam is walking about the trailer and I’m in bed there is defined side to side wobble. Two of the campsites we stay at are all paved concrete so the trailer is level before my stabilizers go down so I’m confident leveling the trailer isn’t contributing to the issue. Any thoughts on stabilizer equipment would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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I have the same issue, probably going to buy the JT strongarms to solve the issue.

You could try this home made option and upgrade to the strongarms if it solves the issue.
https://www.jaycoowners.com/forums/a...7&d=1467123962
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Old 11-26-2018, 04:05 AM   #3
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I have the same issue, probably going to buy the JT strongarms to solve the issue.

You could try this home made option and upgrade to the strongarms if it solves the issue.
https://www.jaycoowners.com/forums/a...7&d=1467123962
The link didn't work for me, I even copied an pasted it in Google.
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Old 11-26-2018, 04:28 AM   #4
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My 24' trailer was very unstable until I put a set of JT Strong Arm's on it.

It took 99% of the bounce and wiggle out. They worked way better than I ever expected.

I got the set on eBay and installed them myself, which took a couple of hours.

Best $$$ I've spent on my trailer so far.
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Old 11-26-2018, 04:37 AM   #5
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The JT Strongarms (or a similar product) are worth it. We use those and the X-Chocks and we now have a very stable trailer.
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Old 11-26-2018, 06:29 AM   #6
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I put scissor jacks just forward of the wheels in the center of the trailer and it took out all the bounce on mine. it was 40 feet long so it does help
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Old 11-26-2018, 07:52 AM   #7
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So we have a 2018, 267bhsw that we have taken out 6 times since we bought it in April. We absolutely love this trailer but I would like it to be a little stiffer. Yes I understand that is sitting on four wheels and that having it 100% solid isn’t going to be realistic but I know there is something more than can be done.
Strong arms will help. I have used 'universal rv stabilizer' as well. I used two of them.

In the end these are only slight improvements. As long as the box is sitting on 4 springs that are designed to bounce, that just what it will do. The only way I know of to get it solid is to use jack stands and get the frame up off the springs.


I have learned to accept the bounce which is cheaper and more effective.
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Old 11-26-2018, 07:52 AM   #8
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Will the strongarm products work with powered stablizer arms????

Might try extending the stabilizer arms further by using less blocking under them, it helped with our TT and the cheapo Camco wheel locking blocks. It takes some trial and error to get it solid, and then have to adjust it on extended stays.
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Old 11-26-2018, 08:01 AM   #9
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I use X chocks, which takes out front to back movement. I also installed 2 extra scissor jack stabilizers in front of the wheels, for a total of 6. That takes out up and down movement, or bouncing. I still get a little side to side movement, noticeable when we are in the front bed and the kids are horsing around in their rear bunks. It's not bad, but it's there. Some sort of bracing to eliminate movement around the normal (vertical axis) is the only way to get rid of it.
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Old 11-26-2018, 08:16 AM   #10
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I added this to my X-chocks and it has helped a LOT:


https://www.valterra.com/product/rv-...iversal-boxed/


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Old 11-26-2018, 08:42 AM   #11
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I added this to my X-chocks and it has helped a LOT:


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I had great luck with this also. It really took the bounce out of the rear of our White Hawk.
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Old 11-26-2018, 01:16 PM   #12
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One thing I’ve discovered that helps, is when parking the trailer I block and X-chock the wheels, crank down the stabilizers, and when we’re finished setting up, go around and tighten everything again. It’s surprising how much slack the X-chocks pick up once the tires cool. Tightening them once they cool really helps.
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One thing I’ve discovered that helps, is when parking the trailer I block and X-chock the wheels, crank down the stabilizers, and when we’re finished setting up, go around and tighten everything again. It’s surprising how much slack the X-chocks pick up once the tires cool. Tightening them once they cool really helps.
I always had the same problem with my X-chocks, they do loosen quite a bit once the tires cool. But when they were tight, they made quite a difference.

I believe the JT Strongarms (or similar) are an elegant and effective solution, but I could never bring myself to spend the money on them, and I'm not talented enough to fabricate my own solution. So my plan (when I had my trailer) was to install another set of scissor jacks just in front of the axles.

I used quick jacks here many times, and when I was able to keep everything tight and leveled, it took virtually all the "bounce" out of the rig. So scissor jacks in the middle somewhere seemed to me to be a cost-effective solution.
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We use a set of steel x-chocks on both sides, plus the BAL lock arm stabilizers - two per scissor jack at 90 degrees to the jacks, and a set of slide out stabilizers under the slide rails (just snugged up and not super tight - we check those frequently and adjust tightness as necessary to make sure there isn't any settling of the rig that could potentially bend the slide rails). Also a couple step supports under the entry step keeps the bouncing on entry to a minimum.

All that cost quite a bit of money, but it has drastically stabilized the camper and I no longer feel the shake every time one of the kids turns over in their bunk!

I have inner ear balance issues and the shaking used to make me feel seasick. All that has gone away!

Hope you find a good solution!
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Old 11-27-2018, 02:38 AM   #15
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Either we are immune to the movement or wiggle from our 2017 J Flight 23RB, or it's a very stable trailer.

Once it's chocked, and the stabilizers are down, I don't need anything else to keep it steady.
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Ours would move a little stepping into it so I bought one of those stabilizers to put under the first step. Other than that as long as I check the stabilizers the second day an adjust if necessary movement isn't an issue
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The wiggle is generally more of an issue with the post style auto levelers used in 5th wheels and bigger trailers. There may be up to 3 tubes that come down and they all have just enough gap in them to telescope down. It’s that gap that causes the issue. Scissors jacks are much more stable.
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As a seasonal camper, I use 4 of these along each side of the frame rails of my 38FDDS. They, combined with the 4 factory scissor jacks and the jack stand gives me 13 jack points. I know it's not really convenient for a weekend camper, but the 1/2 hour of effort may be worth it. I have virtually no frame flex with these installed. I have patio blocks under them and a piece of 2x4 between the the stand and the frame rail.

https://www.amazon.com/Camco-Olympia...um+stack+jacks
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As a seasonal camper, I use 4 of these along each side of the frame rails of my 38FDDS. They, combined with the 4 factory scissor jacks and the jack stand gives me 13 jack points. I know it's not really convenient for a weekend camper, but the 1/2 hour of effort may be worth it. I have virtually no frame flex with these installed. I have patio blocks under them and a piece of 2x4 between the the stand and the frame rail.

https://www.amazon.com/Camco-Olympia...um+stack+jacks
I had good success with those as well, but I would only deploy them if we were staying more than 2 nights as they are a little cumbersome. BUT they DO work.

I was also going to second the advice of snugging everything down after the first night. My rig always tended to "settle" a little, and I was often surprised how much "slack" my stabilizers would get after even a couple hours sitting on a site. I always had the best success if I went around the morning after setting up and snugged everything up.
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