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Old 02-05-2016, 12:27 PM   #1
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Picking out a TV

Hello, my husband and I just purchased a 2012 Swift 145RB TT knowing that our Ford Edge would not be able to tow it. How does one go about determining the size of a vehicle needed to tow this trailer? It has an unloaded weight of 2305, a GVWR of 2950 and a dry hitch weight of 230. Is there a magic calculation to determine what the minimum size vehicle we need to safely tow it? If any one here has a trailer similar to this, what type of TV do you use? For now our baby is in storage till May and we hope to find a vehicle to tow her between now and then. For some reason I am hesitant to trust a dealer. Thanks in advance!
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Old 02-05-2016, 12:50 PM   #2
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Congratulations on your Swift and welcome to the JOF.

There are folks on this site with lots of information on TV and TT and weights. In general, you can't go too big on a TV but you can go too small. Also, if you decide on a larger TT later, you may not have to upgrade your TV at the same time.

That said, a place to begin is to calculate your TT tongue weight to be ~12% to 15% of your GVWR. That weight, plus ALL the stuff (people, fuel, food, hitch weight, etc., etc., etc.) in/on your TV should be less than your TV payload.

You are right to be wary of dealers. A general theme seems to be, 'O sure that vehicle can tow that trailer' if the question is asked. The only safe thing is to research it yourself. If you look around a while on this site, you will find many posts on this topic.

Happy camping this May.
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Old 02-05-2016, 04:39 PM   #3
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Agreed. I had a dealer let me leave with an unlocked hitch, and too small of a TV the first time out....

You will get lots of good advice on your question here though.

My mantra (on this subject) is 50% capacity of the TV are the "actual" limits. That sounds low to some..... but after wind, rain, uphill, semi passing you, and unplanned weight.....my experience says 50%. (10,000 tow rating = 5,000 actual).
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Old 02-05-2016, 05:21 PM   #4
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You won't need something like a F150 to pull that trailer. Below are some specs for the 2016 Ford Explorer which I believe is just above your Edge. It all depends on engine size and axle ratio, at 5000 lbs max and your trailer coming in around 3000 would work fine. You can find similar vehicles in the GM lineup, just google the model for towing capacities and all the info will be at your finger tips. But if you think you may go to a larger trailer in the near future that F-150 or GM 1500 may be a better buy.


Optional Class III Trailer Tow Package - - -
Configuration Axle Ratio GCWR Max Loaded Trailer Weight
3.5L TiVCT V6 FWD 3.39 9950 5000
3.5L TiVCT V6 4WD 3.65 10150 5000
2.3L TiVCT I4 FWD 3.36 6830 2000
2.3L TiVCT I4 FWD 3.51 6830 2000
3.5L EcoBoost V6 4WD 3.16 10400 5000
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Old 02-05-2016, 05:41 PM   #5
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Congrats on the new rig!!!

As mentioned, the payload of the tv is what will determine what you can pull in regard to all passengers, cargo (in the vehicle), all accessories added (step bars, tonneau covers/ caps, etc), the wdh (weight distribution hitch- if needed or ball mount), AND the trailer tw (tongue weight).

So try to estimate what you will carry in the tv (inside or in the bed) to try to help figure out what your tv payload needs to be.

While a 150/1500 series vehicle may not be needed for that trailer, chances are you would not need a wdh for that set up. Just a ball mount/ ball of the proper rating. If you go for more of the crossover/ newer sub (Explorer) style vehicles, make sure they are rated for to use a wdh.

If you do go with a tv that will need a wdh, you will probably need to readjust the set up once the trailer is loaded.
Here is a link to wdh set up and how a wdh works.

And whatever you get, make sure it has the factory tow package which should include heavy duty cooling for the motor and trans, if not possibly more. If it's a Explorer ( or similar) you will have to have the tow package to get the max tow rating. 150/1500 verify the tow rating for the way the actual truck you are looking at is optioned.

Good luck!!!
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My mantra (on this subject) is 50% capacity of the TV are the "actual" limits. That sounds low to some..... but after wind, rain, uphill, semi passing you, and unplanned weight.....my experience says 50%. (10,000 tow rating = 5,000 actual).
Yes! I agree 110%.
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Welcome aboard and congrats on new rig. I recommend getting more capacity in your TV, just in case the bug bites and you upgrade to a bigger tt in the future.
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Alot of good information here and help, thank you to all...this will really give us an idea of where to start looking.
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Yes! I agree 110%.
I agree as well as most tow ratings on most vehicles are derived from flatbed trailers with a lot of flat bricks that don't stack higher than the tailgate. Leaving out the drag resistance that we get towing an 8'wide by 10' high wall bulldozing the air Vs. cutting through it....
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Are you sure the Edge won't to it? I had a 2007 Mazda CX-9 (same as an Edge) and it was rated to tow 3,500 lb. I towed a covered utility trailer with electric brakes behind it all the time. Never really weighed it but I bet it was near 3,500 a lot of times. I know it was back there but never had a problem.
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