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Old 09-08-2014, 09:37 PM   #21
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I think this topic always gets a lot of responses because we all love trucks, horsepower and torque. Truth is, if money wasn't a consideration we'd all be driving big ass diesel trucks!
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Old 09-08-2014, 09:53 PM   #22
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I have a x23b about 5000ib loaded. I am in the market for a new truck. I know I am sticking with a 4 door pickup. Plenty of room for the family and nice to be able to throw stinky stuff in the back. Like gas cans, dogs that got sprayed by a skunk, larger loads, etc.... currently I have a 5.4l ford but very disappointed on the towing with it. its a dog and the stability of it is poor. I do use an equalizer hitch with it. Looking at the ford ecoboost and a 3/4 ton duramax. Pros and cons to both. I think I made my mind up. Being I would have bought the 1/2 ton ecoboost brand new think they go around the 40k price range. Thought hey buy a 2012 or newer 3/4 ton durmax for same money. This way I get to try the diesel out. Also I do love my x23b but if I did get the diesel then I could upgrade to a 5er. Also I herd the eco's pull up the mtn good but haven't heard about coming down the mtn the diesel s have exhaust braking which is priceless
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Old 09-08-2014, 09:57 PM   #23
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I bought a Ford F 150 as my daily driver and I love it. It has the 5.0 and I bought the 5.0 because of the issues that the Ecoboost have, to each there own. I will be making a decision in a few years when I trade in my trailer for a lighter one that I will tow...as we plan to go south each winter!
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Old 09-08-2014, 10:17 PM   #24
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I bought a Ford F 150 as my daily driver and I love it. It has the 5.0 and I bought the 5.0 because of the issues that the Ecoboost have, to each there own. I will be making a decision in a few years when I trade in my trailer for a lighter one that I will tow...as we plan to go south each winter!
I've not had an issue 1 and haven't read/heard of any. What have you heard? I've got 40,000 on mine and been a jewel. It's payload that is making me think about up grading, not towing. I came down 5% grade, 4 miles. Cruise set at 55 in tow mode and the truck didn't sweat a bit, and rpms were 3500 or less.
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Just read of the condensation and spark plug gaping. No big deal to fix, but some seem to be having real troubles. Will see how it goes, but still love mine.
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Just read of the condensation and spark plug gaping. No big deal to fix, but some seem to be having real troubles. Will see how it goes, but still love mine.
There are some bigger issues that I read about...

http://www.f150forum.com/f38/2011-55...-fixes-128636/

Not all have these issues but some do including my friend.....in and out of the dealer 20 times.
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Old 09-09-2014, 12:49 AM   #27
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Well. I have a 04 Dodge Ram 4x4 with the hemi.....I get about 10 mpg pulling my 5500 lb TT. It has the tow haul mode that changes the shift points of the transmission. Great truck for my trailer, pulls ff the line really well and I can keep up with traffic. The only thing I want to do is install rear air bags on the suspension. When I load up the bed of my truck with camping gear and what not...it does drop. Having the airbags will level it out nicely.
If you want torque and decent fuel mileage...do with the diesel....repairs are pricey on those though and diesel is more expensive than gas...at least here in BC. I would love to check out the new Ram 1500 Diesel though
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Old 09-09-2014, 07:48 AM   #28
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Welcome to the forum. You really need to determine what fits you. As most diesel owners will point out, you will probably never recoup the initial investment of a diesel upgrade in fuel. You will get much better mpgs while towing allowing more distance between fuels stop and such (I get about 30-40% better). Advantages to a diesel are higher towing capacity, engine longevity, and most importantly torque. I have driven many size trucks with everything from V6s to 454s, and diesels truly tow much nicer. It rarely ever downshifts and hasn't gone below fifth, I can get up to highway speeds easily, hills are no problem, and I can set the cruise and not worry about it. It also does a phenomenal job engine braking in the hills. On my Ford 6.7 I can actually set the speed for the descent and it will engine brake accordingly. It'll cruise at 65 mpg at about 1700 rpm all day long with my trailer and boat combo ~ 12,000 lbs.

On the flip side, maintenance is more expensive - about $100 per oil change and $175 or so for a fuel filter change ( I do it every 15k).

Just depends on what you want to spend and what you will use it for. Nothing wrong with gassers, but a diesel works for what I want so I will not go back to gas tow vehicles. Also, nothing wrong with a used diesel if thats the direction you were considering but do your research to good and bad engine models and service history.
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....Also I herd the eco's pull up the mtn good but haven't heard about coming down the mtn the diesel s have exhaust braking which is priceless
My buddy brought his 27' Airstream to RMNP last year with his Ecoboost. He loved it except coming back down. He said it was a chore dealing with the brake heat.
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My buddy brought his 27' Airstream to RMNP last year with his Ecoboost. He loved it except coming back down. He said it was a chore dealing with the brake heat.
Precisely the reason I went from an Ecoboost to this 3500HD with the LML Duramax. Our 28DSBH pushed the F150 down the Siskiyous and the Grapevine Going down the Rockies with our 28DSBH in cruise control set at 60, with the exhaust brake and downshifting doing all the work for you was amazing. It was 4100 miles of stress-free towing from Washington State to South Dakota and back.

To get back on point, I think it's obvious that the OP has some hard questions, mainly what will happen next with this towing needs, and if his towing will encounter mountain grades. If it remains as-is then any half ton truck will suffice. Heck, if budget isn't an issue maybe a Diesel VW Touarag or Audi Q7 TDI will work, and it will pull in style. If the trajectory is onwards and upwards, then go big now and have a stress-free towing experience.
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