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Old 09-09-2014, 01:20 PM   #31
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23' 5000 lbs a Diesel would be overkill but it would get you much better mileage. It also depends on how fast you tow.. anything over 65 and the fuel gauge should show triple $$$ for the higher rate of fuel consumption..
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Old 09-09-2014, 03:41 PM   #32
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Everyone's input is truly appreciated. I have a lot to think about. Since I don't do a lot of traveling getting the diesel is probably out since I didn't realize how much more than a gasser it really was and how much it is to maintain it. I think it's down to an expedition or a 4 door gas superduty truck. I like the truck because you can haul stuff but my girls would really enjoy the entertainment that comes with an SUV. Thanks again everyone.
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Old 09-09-2014, 04:12 PM   #33
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Another vote for f150 EcoBoost Max Tow.
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Old 09-09-2014, 04:20 PM   #34
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I can't comment on diesel vs gas other than to say that maintenance costs will be higher, no matter what the diesel proponents try to tell you. TCO though I think is going to be different for different owners. Its not an apples to apples comparison.

What I can tell is that I have owned 3 Suburbans, a GMC Safari, and a Trailblazer. The truck in my sig is my first PU. Why did I wait so long?! I will never buy an SUV again! The truck is just so versatile! I can also tell you that my Sierra has a 5.3 and 3:73 gears and tows our trailer like a dream. It's close to 5k #.

If entertainment for the kids is important, that's not limited to SUVs. Just look for a decked out crew cab truck.
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Old 09-09-2014, 04:48 PM   #35
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Of course money is USUALLY an object, but if it wasn't then there would be no argument. It would be a Diesel SUV pickup truck
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Old 09-09-2014, 05:21 PM   #36
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Looks like you tow a jayco 23B just like mine. How is it going up hills?
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Old 09-09-2014, 05:46 PM   #37
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I used to have suv's also and would never go back. A lot more function and my ram is more luxury than any of my suv's were. I did have dual in headrest dvd blue ray players put in for the kids and they love it
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Old 09-09-2014, 06:26 PM   #38
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Okay, first off, I haven't read all these posts. But owning three diesels for a combined 30 plus years, I can say that, in my experience, maintenance costs have not been a factor. To the contrary, the engines will outlast the bodies around them. On the other hand, they aren't cheap to buy, and with your rig, hardly needed. If it was my camper I'd use one of the four Expeditions we have had, still have two of them, and they are rated at around 8000# towing. That's not a weight I'd put behind them, but five thousand? Sure. My wife routinely pulls 4000, much of it between 6000 and 9000' altitude where power is way off. Your 5000 pounds? An Expy would pull it and the kids, and they could have DVDs in the back seat. Hint: If you get the fancy ones, like DW's King Ranch with rear captain chairs or whatever they call them, the center row of seats will NOt fold flat like our XLT does, and that's great for hauling lots of stuff or dogs. Kids, not so much!
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of course money is usually an object, but if it wasn't then there would be no argument. It would be a diesel suv pickup truck
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I used to have suv's also and would never go back. A lot more function and my ram is more luxury than any of my suv's were. I did have dual in headrest dvd blue ray players put in for the kids and they love it
I'm the other way around. I've had pick ups and the SUV is better. Especially with a family and a dog. The lack of the 3rd row seat and no inside storage space makes them too much of a compromise. If I had a 5th wheel or something messy to carry in the bed a pick up would make sense but for now they don't.

I like to see more diesels in SUVs. The Grand Cherokee offers one but it's only available on the top trim level making it over priced.
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