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Old 02-23-2011, 05:00 PM   #1
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My wife and I recently purchased a 2011 model 22-FB. We are new to TT camping, although back in the 70s I had exposure to TT life as my family camped with a 24ft. My question may be one I should ask the dealer, but I thought I would post here to get some of your opinions. The 2011 model we purchased has 80 gallons of fresh water capacity, which is quite a bit of weight. Im thinking placement of the water tank within the trailer will influence the handling on the road. What are your thoughts on towing with full water tanks in the trailer?
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There`s no question 640 lbs of water will change the way it tows somewhat and the tongue weight versus empty tanks. I have towed mine with a full tank before (53 gallons) but not very far. The tank on my TT is forward of the axles thus increasing an already heavy tongue on a half ton truck. So I noticed more squat. That much weight also limits the amount of stuff you can haul in the truck and trailer. Of course if you are boon docking or in a park with the water turned off as there are here this time of year, you must carry Some water in with you. Not sure when you would need the full 80 gallons unless it was an extended stay. It is my experience that most only travel with 5 to 10 gallons in the tank if they are going to a CG with water available. How your trailer handles with a full tank would also depend on what your tow vehicle is and its capabilities. Disclaimer- I really do not have much experience towing with a full load of water! Hope this helps-Lee
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IMO 80 gallons times about 8 pounds per gallon is alot of weight to haul around. We usually camped on a site with water and elec but the very few times we had elec only we filled our tanks when we arrived. We did use an inline filter when hooking up or filling up. If you are boondocking it's a different story if you can't fill upon arrival.
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We travel with about 15 gallons in the tank unless we are boondocking. If we are boondocking we either run with a full tank or fill it close to the destination if possible.
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I always travel with the fresh water tank empty and fill it when I get to my destination only when there's no city water hookup at the site. This has been SOP since our first RV in 1986.
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I will always travel with a full water tank since we are unable to drink city water (make us both sick). As a matter of fact just normal everyday driving I normally keep a 1 gallon jug in the truck full of drink water because of inability to drink city water. Also we'll do 99% of our camping out boondocks...

Strange enough my water tank is 50 gallons and the water heater is 6 gallons and both are at the very rear of the trailer. I mean right at the rear bumper. So this might create a light tongue weight so I'll load more towards the front...

Once spring gets here I'll get more scale time and information on this...
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My wife and I recently purchased a 2011 model 22-FB. We are new to TT camping, although back in the 70s I had exposure to TT life as my family camped with a 24ft. My question may be one I should ask the dealer, but I thought I would post here to get some of your opinions. The 2011 model we purchased has 80 gallons of fresh water capacity, which is quite a bit of weight. Im thinking placement of the water tank within the trailer will influence the handling on the road. What are your thoughts on towing with full water tanks in the trailer?
Actually, Jayco's fresh water tank is really two tanks hooked together in order to fit into the frame better. With our MH we had a 100 gallon water tank, and ran it full most of the time. I learned the hard way once when the CG water system failed. In the scheme of things 600 lbs out of 9000 lbs. the trailer weighs isn't much. I have drained the MH tank out camping more than once.

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Actually, Jayco's fresh water tank is really two tanks hooked together in order to fit into the frame better. With our MH we had a 100 gallon water tank, and ran it full most of the time. I learned the hard way once when the CG water system failed. In the scheme of things 600 lbs out of 9000 lbs. the trailer weighs isn't much. I have drained the MH tank out camping more than once.

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But that trailer only weighs 4400 lbs empty so a 640 lb increase may be significant. I suppose the real question is does the OP have a marginal TV or a very capable one where the weights are involved. But of course if ya boondock ya gotta have some water......-Lee
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When I towed TTs, we only visited CGs that had water. And when we towed, 0 gallons of water in our TT's tank. If one doesn't need water, then one doesn't need to carry any water, and have its weight splash and flop around.

Also.... Remember that 1/3 to 2/3 tank of water is harder on brakes than a full tank of water. Especially on panic and down hill stops - when that 1/3 to 2/3 tank of water goes "gravity forces" forward. From a wear, tear about on brakes comparison view, its better to have less then 10% or more then 90% of water in the unbaffled tanks. Between 1/3 and 2/3 level of water is much harder to stop. Especially on panic stops - when that amount of water rushes forward. Sometimes, it isn't about static (gravity) weight of water. Its sometimes about "weight force" with unbaffled tanks as well...

If water isn't needed at our destination CGs, then our tanks are at 0%.

Something to keep in mind as well....

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But that trailer only weighs 4400 lbs empty so a 640 lb increase may be significant. I suppose the real question is does the OP have a marginal TV or a very capable one where the weights are involved. But of course if ya boondock ya gotta have some water......-Lee
Our TV is a late 2007 Silverado 1500 with the 4.8L engine, HD suspension, trailer towing package and 3.42 axle. Mostly we will be towing in flat territory, maybe some small rolling hills. The elevation is about 1000 ft above sea level. Southern Ontario, Michigan and NY State region.
Some of the camping we will do is at parks with electric hook-up but no water or sewer. They typically have a remote dumping station, and I'm not sure about potable fresh water filling station. For this reason, I thought we would fill up water at home, plus that way, you know what you're drinking. Then I started thinking about the weight and sloshing effects.....hmmm.
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