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Old 01-12-2019, 09:32 PM   #1
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Why do White Hawks have such a low GVWR?

I am looking at a 2019 WH 32 KBS and I noticed, as did one other on the forum, that the GVWR is low for a ~38' trailer. I did some research and the other brands ultra light of similar size all have a GVWR of 10-11k lbs whereas the White Hawk is ~9k lbs. I looked back at past WH model years and found 2017 and 2018 had similar GVWR to the 2019.

Anyone noticed anything with their White Hawks that make you question the strength or integrity of the trailer? I have a smaller 2014 and will say the only thing I've noticed is the flexing of the floor. I am wondering why they rated them with such low GVWR.
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Old 01-12-2019, 09:46 PM   #2
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I always like to look at axle rating along with GVWR and cargo carrying capacity. That's a good initial indication of how the trailer is constructed. Is it equipped to be just good enough for it's ratings or somewhat overbuilt for it's manufacturer supplied specs.

For example my Feather has a GVWR of 5500# but has 2 3500# axles under it. On other trailers you may find that they may have a GVWR of 7500# but the same 3500# axles under them. Are the components just meeting the specs or are they somewhat equipped above the minimum requirements.

Again, I'm not implying that axle capacity is the only thing to be concerned with, but it is a good quick way to gauge basic capability of that chassis and overall construction.
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Old 01-13-2019, 02:19 AM   #3
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The White Hawk line is considered a "Lite weight" trailer like the Jay Feather so they keep the weights down which includes lightening the cargo carrying capacity.
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Our 28RL has been great so far with approx. 2000 miles on it. I haven't noticed any weak points anywhere, but having said that, I cannot inspect the underside due to the underbelly being covered up. With 1675 lbs.of carrying capacity, this seems more than sufficient for our needs.

We do not travel with full tanks. I can see it becoming an issue pretty fast if we did with the two gray tanks, black tank, and water tank full.
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I always like to look at axle rating along with GVWR and cargo carrying capacity. That's a good initial indication of how the trailer is constructed. Is it equipped to be just good enough for it's ratings or somewhat overbuilt for it's manufacturer supplied specs.

For example my Feather has a GVWR of 5500# but has 2 3500# axles under it. On other trailers you may find that they may have a GVWR of 7500# but the same 3500# axles under them. Are the components just meeting the specs or are they somewhat equipped above the minimum requirements.

Again, I'm not implying that axle capacity is the only thing to be concerned with, but it is a good quick way to gauge basic capability of that chassis and overall construction.
This was the exact scenario I was in. My trailer's GVWR is 7500 and I had two 3500lb axles under it. I only ever loaded to 7K or less, but my rear axle bent and scrubbed off a tire. Now I have two 5K axles under it and LR D tires.

My first trailer was a 198RD with a GVWR of 5900lb and it had the same twin 3500lb axles and never had a problem.
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Old 01-13-2019, 08:41 AM   #6
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Great point Ohiofinlander - "Our needs"

Understanding the construction is a necessary homework. A 38' RV at around 400 sqft of 1" tonged and grove hardwood is plenty of weight. The new sandwich/Marine-board, vacuum sealed flooring may save weight but only time and usage will tell....


We have traveled many miles with family and several family have opted out on travel due to their needs. Be it miles, wear and tear, already committed to, or a financial matter. The "our needs" ring true.
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They switched over to plywood floors in the White Hawks a few years ago.
That's a plus.
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Thanks for the input. You inspired me to do some more research. I have found that the camper has 2 4400 lb axles. So, for example, if I am loaded at 8700 lbs GVW with 1000 lbs of tongue weight I would have 7700 lbs distributed between 2-4400 lb axles. I would be 1100lbs below the max rating for my axles. Am I looking at this correctly?
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WhiteHawks are all advertised as being 1/2 ton “towable”. Because of this claim they trim where they can which is not such a bad thing. Our 2018 WH 28RL has been good. The little secrete is not all WH models are truly 1/2 ton “towable”.
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snip........ if I am loaded at 8700 lbs GVW with 1000 lbs of tongue weight I would have 7700 lbs distributed between 2-4400 lb axles. I would be 1100lbs below the max rating for my axles. Am I looking at this correctly?
Your correct because when hitched TT tongue weight is supported by the TV.

TT weight over the axles will fluctuate at the campground (static mode) once occupant(s) and fluids come into play, but is less of a concern than when "in-tow".

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