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08-30-2022, 06:08 PM
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Always take any Snopes statement with a grain of salt.
In my own Fact checking, the quote could be anywhere from $7,000 to $35,000. GM states life expectancy to be around 100,000 miles.
What is not normally mentioned is that GM expects a 30% reduction in storage capacity of the battery over that lifetime. Can't even imagine a 30% drop in fuel capacity in any of our current Tow vehicles. Example: 35gal to 23.5 gal would put quite a damper on our ranges
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08-31-2022, 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Onyrlef
They'll be refurbished and resold.
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What happens to the refurbished material?
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08-31-2022, 06:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bucko
What happens to the refurbished material?
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The cobalt and other precious metals are extracted and the remainder is used as fillers in concrete and other construction materials. Funny how people who would otherwise be okay with burning coal in an i.c.e.,if possible, all the sudden become converts to the green new deal when it comes to ev battery disposal. I'm personally not a candidate for an ev, but then I wasn't a candidate for cassette tapes to replace 8 tracks, or CD's, to replace cassettes, or streaming music to replace CD's. Yesterday while walking on the indoor track I listened to music streamed from my smartphone, which has more technology compacted into a 3"x6" wafer than the Apollo moon mission, via bluetooth to Apple Air Pods. I doubt if I'd feigned evironmental angst over the disposal of all those 8 track tapes it would have slowed down that progress either.
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08-31-2022, 07:55 AM
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Seems if it was a typo they did it twice.
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08-31-2022, 08:16 AM
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I've seen so many of these pictures (probably 10) with different prices I'm not even sure of the validity of any of them.
But if they are true that sure didn't save much vs. gas!
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08-31-2022, 03:11 PM
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California just issued an "Emergency Flex Alert" today because of the intense heat wave. Among the recommended recommendations is no AC and no charging of electric vehicles from 4-9 PM! Expected to continue the alert through the holiday weekend.
How do they intend to charge all of the additional EV's by 2035 as mandated by the State???
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gop...-ban-gas-cars#
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-gas-cars.html
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08-31-2022, 04:52 PM
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How do they intend to charge all of the additional EV's by 2035 as mandated by the State???
As a Californian let me see if I can shine some light on this question. California State Government does not recognize intelligent questions about this subject.Therefore they don’t have to answer it. All you need to know is we are saving the planet, We are saving the children, we are saving the whales , we are saving the forests and any other darn thing that needs to be saved! This comment could be considered amusing if it wasn’t so damn sad.
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08-31-2022, 05:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcm157
They are too busy trying to save the planet...
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I live in an area serviced by a coal fired power plant. The emissions generated to charge an EV exceeds the emissions of a gas fired 330 HP SUV.
That's not saving the planet, that's cutting off your nose to spite your face.
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09-01-2022, 06:07 AM
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Everytime they build an ev an angel in heaven loses its wings
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09-01-2022, 01:36 PM
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Kalifornia is a big joke and so are their electric vehicles. I'll drive a camel first and name him bid-joe.
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09-01-2022, 01:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joey55
Kalifornia is a big joke and so are their electric vehicles. I'll drive a camel first and name him bid-joe.
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For one, this isn't third grade, for two, California is spelled with a "C" and three, if you're otherwise trying to make a political statement, you're on the wrong forum.
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09-01-2022, 05:10 PM
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Every time I think of California...... I am reminded of a CIRCULAR FIRING SQUAD!
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09-01-2022, 05:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RAurand
Every time I think of California...... I am reminded of a CIRCULAR FIRING SQUAD!
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They have the 5th largest economy on the planet with a 3.4 trillion dollar gsp., not to shabby for a circular firing squad.
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09-01-2022, 05:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Onyrlef
For one, this isn't third grade, for two, California is spelled with a "C" and three, if you're otherwise trying to make a political statement, you're on the wrong forum.
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I agree wholeheartedly. We are here to talk about Jaycos, and maybe other things that affect our leisure time. No place for religion or politics.
So, what's all this angel talk about?
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09-02-2022, 04:30 AM
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Perhaps its time to close this thread. I don't see it improving.
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09-02-2022, 07:10 AM
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Electric vehicles won't be practical until they have replaceable batteries and a network of battery stations. You pull in to the station, the attendant slides out your dead battery, and rolls in a fresh one.
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09-02-2022, 07:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cincinnati Kid
Electric vehicles won't be practical until they have replaceable batteries and a network of battery stations. You pull in to the station, the attendant slides out your dead battery, and rolls in a fresh one.
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That's true! But from what I have seen the batteries are so big that a change would require a major mechanical effort.
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09-02-2022, 07:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cincinnati Kid
Electric vehicles won't be practical until they have replaceable batteries and a network of battery stations. You pull in to the station, the attendant slides out your dead battery, and rolls in a fresh one.
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Perhaps you mean practical for long distance travel? It's kinda difficult to get more practical for local ev's than plugging it in when you get home each night or at one of the many ev charging stations popping up everywhere you look. Too, I rather doubt every major car maker on the planet is tooling for ev mfg'ing because they're impractical. I don't imagine when the Model A debuted,
there was a gas station on every corner. Besides, the more ev's on the road the less demand there will be for gas, which means it'll cost me less to run my i.c.e.
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09-02-2022, 12:09 PM
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Location: Whitby Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cincinnati kid
electric vehicles won't be practical until they have replaceable batteries and a network of battery stations. You pull in to the station, the attendant slides out your dead battery, and rolls in a fresh one.
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a battery in a f150 lightning weighs 6590 lbs
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09-02-2022, 12:55 PM
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Location: North Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by billcf7
a battery in a f150 lightning weighs 6590 lbs
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Yes, indeed they are heavy. Maybe one day they will come up with a liquid that will have a lot more power potential than batteries and can be easily pumped into a vehicle...
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