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Old 08-21-2013, 08:51 PM   #1
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Towing woes

Hello. I'm new to the TT world and love camping with a good sized rig given the size of my family. However hauling this thing is a basket of stress I do not enjoy. I'm not going to pretend my tow capacity and trailer weight aren't close but I did add a WD hitch and sway bar. I'm adding another sway bar this week and hoping it helps but thought I might throw it out to you all for advise. Do you think the extra sway bar will help? Both are friction style. My expedition has air bags in the rear but the dealer suggested to put the WD bars on the second link which I'm not sure if its adding to my problem. I have made short pulls on the first link and the tongue doesnt sag but still get sway with cross wind and passing trucks. The setting suggestions are all over the place for the sway bars from cranking it all the way down to finger tight. I've got 9000 lbs of camper at 35 ft long and 135" high with 2 sliders so it's a giant sail. Should I expect some sway? Now this is really a highway problem. Anything below 55 and I don't even know its behind me. Thanks folks. I've got a cross state trip coming up and I don't want to crush the steering wheel with my grip. Thanks

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Old 08-21-2013, 09:08 PM   #2
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I had an 08 expedition with a 5.4 and air bags towing a 7,200 pound 31 foot white hawk. I was using a centerline hitch. I hated it from my first trip. Trucks passing me would make me hold on for dear life. I never really felt sway but it always felt like the trailer was pushing the truck around. I ended up trading it for an f350 as soon as I could.

Wish I could give you better news. Good luck.
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:16 PM   #3
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First, don't drive over the speed that gives you complete control of your rig. My opinion, your hitch is your problem. I don't care to hype one hitch over another but I will tell you that this component is the last one you should ever look for the best deal. In hitches always look for the best hitch.
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:18 PM   #4
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I am no expert on this, but if your dry weight is is almost 8000lb, I am guessing that is off the Manufacturer sticker then you are probably way over the tow capacity for the TV when the TT is loaded as I know me, the wife and our 2 y/o pack more than 1000lb of cargo in a 20' trailer.

I have a 10,050lb tow capacity and there is no way I would tow something that long and heavy behind my truck. IMO it is to much trailer for the truck.
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:57 PM   #5
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I concur with, Huntsvillian. IMO, you are risking a whole lot!
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Old 08-21-2013, 10:14 PM   #6
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Ken, you're only telling us half the story. You provided us with all the stats for the trailer but nothing for the Expedition except its towing capacity- which could be possibly be exceeded being that the trailer's GVWR is 700 pounds higher. I think you should load up as you normally would for a trip (including passengers and a full fuel tank) and make a trip to the CAT Scale. You might be surprised by when you see all the results.
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Old 08-21-2013, 10:16 PM   #7
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Using the second link on the WD bars is probably a good idea as it will add more weight to the front wheels of the tow vehicle. You may need a heavier set of bars to distribute the weight. You may have maxed out your tow vehicles capacity.
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Old 08-22-2013, 01:20 AM   #8
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Towing woes

It sounds like either your tongue weight is too high, causing the trailer to drive the truck, or your hitch isn't set up properly, or the front end of your truck needs work (ball joints, alignment, etc). Tire pressures count also.

I use a cheap hitch and it works fine if set up properly.
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Old 08-22-2013, 03:58 AM   #9
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Clearly that`s a whole lot of trailer for an expy. And it sounds like you are using one friction type sway bar where two should be used for a trailer over 25' so adding the 2nd bar may help a little, but I think a larger tow vehicle should be in your future and would be the real long term stress reducer here.. Welcome to JOF!
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Old 08-22-2013, 05:18 AM   #10
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The short wheelbase of the expedition is probably causeing a case of the tail wagging the dog. The 2nd sway bar might help but i would not bank on it. Also is your receiver on TV rated for at least 1200 lbs tongue weight if not you you are risking a lot there . I also have a 32bhds so I know the weights. I tow mine with a older dually pick up and dont have any trouble with sway. Our previous trailer I could tow with our suburban but would not even try this 32bhds.
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