Sumo Springs

[hamerjk]

Originally Posted by Studiovette

I'm being told it's possible by etrailer.com see below. I did mention that it's a hawk with j-ride plus.

Link to springs


https://www.etrailer.com/p-SSR-130-47.html

Attachment 60701

I did front and back sumos on my Greyhawk with no problem at all and made a world of difference. I was told by the sumos person to do both not just the front for the best ride possible. I could not install because of my back had someone do it with no issues at all.

[billjmck]

Originally Posted by Camper_bob

That depends on what Hellwig product you're talking about.

J-Ride plus came with (or still does?) an upgraded Hellwig sway bar on the rear, and Hellwig helper springs in the rear. Many of us have upgraded the Ford OEM front sway bar to the Hellwig FRONT sway bar (MUCH improvement).

From what I've read though, not many have attacked the rear on Greyhawks. I intend to install a Track Bar system some day. My curiosity is whether Sumos out back would work in conjunction with the track bar? Or would be a duplication? Or perhaps a duplication of the Hellwig Helper springs?

I'm well aware the Sumos work a completely different "problem" than the track bar, but I'm wondering if the net result would be similar with either one installed, or if there would be a benefit to installing BOTH.

The Sumos for the rear are A LOT more expensive than the fronts. The front ones I could kind of brush away the cost, but the rears being so expensive, are not such an easy decision...

I'm sorry, I was talking about the helper springs. I have been following your discussion about all the upgrades for ride improvement and they helped greatly. My MH has helper springs front and rear. (That was what I was talking about when I meant to say, it sounds like some only have helper springs on rear.) That was the first thing I did. Made a big difference. I have since added the upgraded front sway bar and steering stabilizer. (Both Roadmaster.) A track bar is different than sway bar? If so, how and should they be used together?

[Studiovette]

I was about to pull the trigger on the rear sumos at $313. I think the fronts were a little under $200. A trackbar cost around $525 so I am going to weigh my options and also see if both parts can be used together in conjunction with jay ride plus. Or maybe it's overkill.

[qnghiem]

Hi, where you buy rear sumo at 313$? They all sell above 500$.

[Studiovette]

Etrailer

[qnghiem]

Thank you. They sell 589$ now.

[Studiovette]

SumoSprings Solo Custom Helper Springs - Rear Axle $311
Ssr130-47

[qnghiem]

Hi Tom, where you buy front sumo spring? 168$ is a good deal.

[tom463219]

Originally Posted by qnghiem

Hi Tom, where you buy front sumo spring? 168$ is a good deal.

I bought them here: https://www.supersprings.com/shop/ssf-106-47/

They were $184.99, I found a discount code for $27.75. With tax and free shipping the total came to $168.25.

[qnghiem]

Thanks Tom. I had reached out to sumospring and they gave me 10% discount code. The total is 178$ with tax and free shipping.

[tom463219]

Originally Posted by qnghiem

Thanks Tom. I had reached out to sumospring and they gave me 10% discount code. The total is 178$ with tax and free shipping.

That's good. They shipped via Fedex. I received them in a couple days.

[Studiovette]

Rear sumo's [emoji818] no problem at all.
Took it a couple miles around my neighborhood and noticed some difference. Will see how she does on the interstate next week.
Look what's on there from Ford. [emoji38]

[RetiredOne]

Originally Posted by Studiovette

Rear sumo's [emoji818] no problem at all.
Took it a couple miles around my neighborhood and noticed some difference. Will see how she does on the interstate next week.
Look what's on there from Ford.

So, if I'm looking at them correctly, they are replacing the stock bump stops with some type of helper spring? Is that correct?

[Studiovette]

Originally Posted by RetiredOne

So, if I'm looking at them correctly, they are replacing the stock bump stops with some type of helper spring? Is that correct?

Correct

[Studiovette]

So after a 150 mile trip with the rear sumos installed I have to say they were totally worth the $314. Huge ride improvement. It Eliminated almost all of the bouncing around and rattling on harsh pavement. I can't really explain it but I had a really harsh ride prior with the Ford setup. I feel like I'm driving a totally different rig that can handle any rd situation. I went over a few large speed bumps at a Cabellas parking lot and it felt great. Prior to this it was just a disaster. On I95 even the largest rigs can blow passed me and I feel nothing from it.

After doing a wheel alignment, adding the font and rear sumos, upgrading the front sway bar, and adding the steering stabilizer I finally feel like my rig performs the way it should have from the start.

[qnghiem]

HI Studiovette, is it easy to install the rear sumospring? Thanks.

[tom463219]

Originally Posted by Studiovette

Rear sumo's [emoji818] no problem at all.
Took it a couple miles around my neighborhood and noticed some difference. Will see how she does on the interstate next week.
Look what's on there from Ford. [emoji38] Attachment 61307Attachment 61308Attachment 61309

Are those the Rear 1500lb sumosprings you installed?

[drmike961]

So it appears that most on this thread installed the lightest and least expensive sumo spring. When calling super springs they naturally recommended the heavier ones. I simply do not understand how these work, whether it is really necessary to get the heavier ones. Are the lighter ones at risk of overload? Someone please dumb it down for me as to why they chose what they did or what they would recommend for a redhawk 24B GVWR 14,500 lbs.

[RetiredOne]

Originally Posted by drmike961

So it appears that most on this thread installed the lightest and least expensive sumo spring. When calling super springs they naturally recommended the heavier ones. I simply do not understand how these work, whether it is really necessary to get the heavier ones. Are the lighter ones at risk of overload? Someone please dumb it down for me as to why they chose what they did or what they would recommend for a redhawk 24B GVWR 14,500 lbs.

Interesting question. I too, have been wondering what benefit I'll get by installing them. From the Sumo website:

...."SumoSprings® are a patented suspension product designed to enhance load carrying ability, stabilize sway, and improve overall driver control and ride comfort."

So as an example, there are two versions for our rigs, a 500 lb and 1000 lb. If I'm looking for "enhanced" ability, which one to choose?

I went over the scales, and my rig is 4,400 lbs on the front axle. So, knowing we already have stock springs on the front of the rig, supporting the weight, how much "enhancement" is enough, and how much is too much?

[Studiovette]

Originally Posted by tom463219

Are those the Rear 1500lb sumosprings you installed?

These are the one's I went with in the rear.

https://www.etrailer.com/Vehicle-Sus...BoCVBIQAvD_BwE